Tire pressure a bigger deal than I thought!

[sonny123]

My rim looks camouflaged from all the tire changes.
Shot a video of him changing it, I'll post it when it's uploaded.

[thegreck]

@sonny123 said in Tire pressure a bigger deal than I thought!:

My rim looks camouflaged from all the tire changes.
Shot a video of him changing it, I'll post it when it's uploaded.

Please do! My tire is starting to wear out after 1,000 miles and I'm trying to figure out my next move.

Also trying to figure out the simplest way to remove the tire if I'm to do it myself. I see different people saying different things about what needs to be unplugged/unscrewed in order to remove it.

[sonny123]

@thegreck

Removing to wheel takes 5 minutes.
Here's the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JZgtjEmMBw&feature=youtu.be

[thegreck]

@sonny123 Yikes. 10 minutes to change the tire when there are two people doing it with proper tools. I might have to send mine in. Wish I had two boards!!

[sonny123]

@thegreck

Yes, I think it's good to know it can be a bit of a hassle,
between finding a shop that'll agree to do it and the scratches you end up with.
Some guys are able to swap tires by themselves but it ain't easy.

[CBR 954rr]

take a look at youtube videos of people changing cart tires. While a tire shop can probably muscle it on there, there is definitely techniques that make it much easier.

[sonny123]

@CBR-954rr

True, last time he had easier time and did it alone.
I think the toughest part is breaking the bead.
Removing the tire from the rim can be done at home with the right tools
and you can place some materials on the rim to protect it from scratching.

I looked at an old tire I had and they do wear on one side more than the other.
So rotating it might buy you some time.
I'll see how long mine does after today's rotation.

[RandomNate]

@sonny123 said in Tire pressure a bigger deal than I thought!:

Here's the video.

Yikes, that was brutal to watch. No regard to scratching or gouging the rim. It looked like the way you change a bike tire when you are a kid with brute force and screwdrivers. I would not take my business there again.

[sonny123]

@RandomNate

Well, if you care about not scratching the rim, send it to FM.

I don't care, and for $15 tire swap, I can't expect much.

I like the rugged look.

[CBR 954rr]

@thegreck said in Tire pressure a bigger deal than I thought!:

@sonny123 Yikes. 10 minutes to change the tire when there are two people doing it with proper tools. I might have to send mine in. Wish I had two boards!!

the use of proper tools is questionable...those looked like screwdrivers

[thegreck]

@CBR-954rr I had to assume they would have proper tools, but since I don't know what they look like, I figured they must just look a lot like screwdrivers and also be insanely difficult to use.

[sonny123]

@CBR-954rr

Well, he's not equipped for Go Kart tire change.
But he did use some special spoons.

One way of doing it to avoid scratching is to cut out the old tire.
You'll need pretty heavy duty cutter for the bead.

Then there's a trick to getting the new tire in with minimal damage to the rim.
I recall on their Headquarter tour video, there's a shot of the guy putting on the tire.

[sonny123]

https://youtu.be/KrPRvP2H_v0?t=266

[CBR 954rr]

@sonny123 said in Tire pressure a bigger deal than I thought!:

@CBR-954rr

One way of doing it to avoid scratching is to cut out the old tire.
You'll need pretty heavy duty cutter for the bead.

That's not a bad idea...I may resort to that if my tire change doesn't go smoothly. I'm sure an angle grinder or dremel work make short work of it.

[darthj0n]

I like 19psi I'm about 190 lbs and 6'0" I rode at 11 and it was so loose it killed the balls of my feet.

[sonny123]

Pretty damn odd. In a good way that is.
I usually pump 25 psi after a tire change and deflate down to 20.
This time I left it at 25.
Been coming back from my typical 4 mile run with 50% left at 225 lbs after 100's of charging cycles.
The tire is rock hard and feels pretty agile and turn on a dime.
Takes little getting used to, but I love it this way.

[Pleepleus]

@MichaelW what tire pressure are you riding to make it feel so great?

[Dmonicle]

22 psi, I'm 200lbs, much more responsive at higher psi for me

[groovyruvy]

20psi is the max recommended pressure for the stock tire, although some like to ride at a higher psi. 20 for me feels great. Took a little getting used to as compared to the lower pressure I had been riding at, but now that I've adjusted it's perfect.

[akoskinen]

@groovyruvy Interesting. Is that recommendation from Futuremotion? On the wheel itself it reads "max inflation pressure 4bar".

4bar pressure converts to 58PSI.

I find that the lower the pressure the more the wheel will wear from the edges, so I vary the pressure also to wear the tire evenly.

ak

[groovyruvy]

@akoskinen prior to your post I had not converted bar to PSI but you are correct, 4 bar is listed on the side of the tire (on both original and +) and equates to 58PSI as you said. I reviewed the owner's manuals for the original and the + and in both, under the 'tire' section, they say the same thing: ". . . . . .be sure it is sufficiently inflated but below 20PSI". So while the tire can clearly handle a lot more pressure, it's FM's recommendation to use 20PSI max. @njcustom offered guidance along the lines of: whatever your weight is, divide by 10 and that's the pressure to use. So a 160# rider would ride at 16PSI, a 210# rider at 21PSI, etc. Regarding wheel wear, low tire pressure is a major contributing factor, and riding at higher PSI will result in longer tire life (and a longer ride as more PSI = less taxing on the motor) and a better ride. I guess it can't hurt to vary tire pressure in an effort to even tire wear, but if that's your concern maybe try riding the board 'backwards' from time to time, with the front (pressure sensor) footpad in the back; and / or ride switchstance. I force myself to do both from time to time, primarily because I feel it helps develop better control of the board and they're good skills to have. The other thing I do is inspect the tire regularly for stuff that gets stuck in there- like little nails or bigger pieces of glass or metal. Removing these items before they have a chance to burrow further into the tire and cause a puncture is probably one of the best things you can do to prolong tire life. Beyond that, I check tire pressure once a week and inflate it to 20PSI.

[PwnWheel]

sounding like 20 is a good all around go to? i'm a noob and will be learning from ground up. ALSO, will this pump work with the Onewheel+? like will the nozzle part fit around the frame. sounds like a good pump but that nozzle looks pretty big. https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Glueless-Puncture-T-Valve-Schrader/dp/B017ADD9N4/ref=sr_1_6?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1494874279&sr=1-6&keywords=bike+pump

[Pleepleus]

@groovyruvy From reading through many threads and talking to FM tire pressure effects so much. Yes lower pressure increases tire wear, decreases speed, and distance. However lower tire pressure with give you more control with wobbles and carving. It also absorbs the road much more. I think it is good to experience different levels of pressure which also effects feet placement. What is the goal? Speed definitely higher pressure but carving lower pressures the advantage.

[sonny123]

Rotating the tire can almost double its life.
Did mine a month ago and been riding daily multiple times.
The wear that used to be on the left side is unchanged.