Bigger sensor!
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@njcustom @DVO , I would dismount as I normally do. By raising my heel up, standing on my "toes"(not really) on the sensor foot. It's really easy, comfortable and smooth.
Jumping off would also still work obviously, I know some dismount that way. It's still a split sensor, so unless you dismount by rotating your foot off the sensor, there shouldn't be a problem.
Still, that's why I said optional. I would see it as a huge improvement, but some may not.Some calibration could possibly be needed in order to swap to the big sensor. But if so, I'd hope you could choose sensor mode in the app.
@Brutha-Man Yeah, I still vote for a delayed sensor "trick mode" in the app.
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Llardnicus 20 October 2015, 07:32 UTC
Trick mode could be interesting... My brother kept trying to do 360s, that's just not possible with the current delay.
Riding off curbs is easy enough, the only thing preventing me from doing it more often is confidence in the sensor. Not that it's ever disengaged, but sometimes my foot doesn't land exactly square with the sensor.
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@germx @njcustom @DVO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvPZZrR_-dI
it's my problem...you can see my toes loose contact,and my heel isn't on the sensor= nose diving -
@lardnicus Exactly! I always have to check my foot when I land to see if it's still withing the sensor range.
A wider sensor would really help ease my mind here.@fabuz I would never dare to ride with only one sensor engaged. I always ride with my foot more or less centered on the sensor.
But yeah, the wide sensor should fix any problems with riding with an angle. -
@fabuz looks like your back foot didn't move.. Try the sensor in the back
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Llardnicus 20 October 2015, 14:31 UTC
Full pad sensor would be ace, basically... being able to move your foot while riding with confidence would be such a huge plus... I don't see an issue dismounting... You already have to slow to a stop to disengage anyway... Heck, I would gladly jump off every time for this upgrade...
And while you're at it, embed it in the ply so we can replace the grip tape super easily and hey, why not offer it as a simple upgrade to V1 owners as well :D :D :D
@onewheel
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TT-CAT 20 October 2015, 15:43 UTC
Making the foot sensor pad 3/4 or more of the area would work great as well, just leaving maybe an inch or two at the very edge that isn't part of the sensor to make it easy to deactivate the board for getting off. Move foot to the edge and tilt the shoe to the edge to deactivate and dismount. A foot sensor pad of this size would still allow us to rotate our front foot slightly angled forward as many of us like to do, yet allow a little non sensor part on the edge to maintain structural integrity of the board, all while allowing an area of contact to deactivate the board for dismount.
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CChance2ride2 20 October 2015, 20:47 UTC
It seems like a full-pad sensor might not be best due to leaving no space to mount the grip-tape as it cannot be 'stuck' directly onto the sensor pad. There'd need to be a decent sized border (an inch or two all-around) for the grip-tape to mount to so as to preclude even more grip-tape slippage or outright peeling off...
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Llardnicus 21 October 2015, 02:30 UTC
@Chance2ride2 that's why I also suggested that the sensor be sandwiched or embeded in the ply. Then we can glue the grip tape across the whole thing without worrying about it.
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CChance2ride2 22 October 2015, 03:16 UTC
T-CAT - but aren't they pretty sensitive contact sensors? How would they work sandwiched?
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@Chance2ride2 (answer to the second last post) Well covering the pad completely is maybe a bit silly, and I don't really need it bigger towards heel/toe. But increasing the size a bit:
(Maybe less)
And in worst case, you can always secure the tape with screws, as seen in:
http://community.rideonewheel.com/topic/454/have-you-done-any-customization-or-any-modification-post-pictures/2This would allow you to ride with your feet diagonally, and be more confident riding terrain.
Also, I think the slippage was partly due to people placing their feet over the sensor, and then naturally wanting to rotate the foot into a diagonal position. So that would no longer be a problem. -
2 fingers are enough pressure on the sensors to keep the board engaged.. Your entire foot does not have to be on it.. You can ride diagonal.. Technically once you're over .5mph you only need to be on ONE sensor..
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@njcustom You are absolutely correct. Still, it's mostly about feeling secure when riding.
Something I do 99% of the time anyway, but I do keep my foot in a horisontal position.
Say you have non-flat shoes, and standing a bit wrong so that you come of one of the sensors, riding only on one.
And then you lift the part of the foot still standing on the sensor in a turn.Anyway, I don't see a problem with having a bigger sensor. You can argue if it's needed or not, but I see it as a pure improvement really.
I've had eager people try the board before I get a chance of showing them where to stand, and failing to engage the board. So it's not like they are hard to miss. Granted, they have to get both the senors at start, but still.
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@germx I wouldn't mind a larger sensor for my own piece of mind.. But again, I don't really have an issue now..
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Llardnicus 7 December 2015, 22:28 UTC
@njcustom said:
2 fingers are enough pressure on the sensors to keep the board engaged.. Your entire foot does not have to be on it.. You can ride diagonal.. Technically once you're over .5mph you only need to be on ONE sensor..
It's not pressure based, is it? I thought it was electricity based... If I wear thick soled boots, the sensor has a hard time "seeing" the electricity in my foot. Seeing two fingers directly above the sensor would not be a problem.
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@lardnicus its a pressure sensor.. Could be the gap in the boot sole.. Most boots have a gap in the middle
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Llardnicus 7 December 2015, 23:34 UTC
I can't find any information on the sensor, where did you read that?
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@lardnicus in the Onewheel factory tour video.. The owners says it.. Also if you look close and press it with your finger you can see it move..