Snow Tire!

8 November 2016, 12:08 UTC

@ashewheeler are you back before tday?

8 November 2016, 16:17 UTC

Part of me likes the look of this tire more

9 November 2016, 07:12 UTC

@ashewheeler said in Snow Tire!:

Part of me likes the look of this tire more

That tyre is directional.

9 November 2016, 19:39 UTC

@p3eps said in Snow Tire!:

@ashewheeler said in Snow Tire!:

Part of me likes the look of this tire more

That tyre is directional.

That doesn't matter...

10 November 2016, 06:00 UTC

Just ordered the Hoosier wheel, was due for a tire change anyway, will post a review with pics when the tire arrives.

11 November 2016, 01:44 UTC

@CarvingUphillAVL good question (and I would imagine not, as @njcustom replied)

I would also be interested in how it affects handling.
The tire normally deforms when turning. The regular tire is smooth, a nice evenly elastic form. The treaded tire is not smooth.

Great for traction but does it feel chunky when turning?
I wonder if it feels like riding over a grate..

If handling is not compromised I would definitely be interested in this myself. Maybe Future Motion or someone could offer this as a service. (I don't trust myself to change this tire..)

11 November 2016, 15:58 UTC

@Zluz I think future motion tested a treated tire.. there's a reason they didn't use it.. its a noisy ride..not a smooth ride.. it collects rode junk much easier.. could potentially pick up large rocks and jam the board sending you to the ground.. a slick is more flexible for turning because the side walls are softer.. the list goes on and on.. it's not going to help offroad because the motor isn't strong enough. It will just fail and shut off.. its a very bad decision In my opinion

11 November 2016, 16:02 UTC

@njcustom obviously there's trade offs, just depends on how and where you ride.. Slick is great for street, but pretty crappy on dirt..lol

11 November 2016, 16:34 UTC

@njcustom V1 problems haha. Really hoping for a V2 with an upgraded motor, sensor pads and swappable batteries in the next few years.

12 November 2016, 02:45 UTC

@parrothd I haven't had any problems on dirt..

12 November 2016, 04:51 UTC

@njcustom said in Snow Tire!:

@parrothd I haven't had any problems on dirt..

I do on the pump track, lots of wheel slip depending on the condition of track.

12 November 2016, 05:11 UTC

@parrothd that's because you kinda come off the board on a pump track making low traction.. probably go into happen with a treaded tire too..

12 November 2016, 06:06 UTC

@parrothd said in Snow Tire!:

I do on the pump track, lots of wheel slip depending on the condition of track.

One wheel = single point of contact. Extra tread isn't likely to change anything. You'd need more wheels for that to make a difference.

12 November 2016, 18:56 UTC

@thegreck said in Snow Tire!:

@parrothd said in Snow Tire!:

I do on the pump track, lots of wheel slip depending on the condition of track.

One wheel = single point of contact. Extra tread isn't likely to change anything. You'd need more wheels for that to make a difference.

I think we all got the point you guys aren't into modding.

12 November 2016, 20:03 UTC

@parrothd said in Snow Tire!:

I think we all got the point you guys aren't into modding.

He says to the guy with the all-matte black Onewheel with a carbon fiber fender and a side handle, which he also sells.

12 November 2016, 20:16 UTC

I plan on running semi-scientific tests before and after I install the Hoosier wheel (traction, mileage and handling at 15 and 20psi), so we'll see what it can/can't do. That being said, for the most part, I agree with @thegreck and @njcustom, but at the same time, it's sort of a "won't know til we try" scenario, worst case, it looks cool and handles exactly the same, which isn't too bad IMO

12 November 2016, 20:20 UTC

@No : Experimentation is a good thing. Let us know the results!

12 November 2016, 20:58 UTC

@badcheese I agree with this completely. Obviously I'm not a stranger to modding, but I'd definitely want to try out the threaded tire, or hear from some folks who try it, before doing it myself. Like @njcustom, I'd be afraid of rocks and sticks getting picked up and jamming into the narrow deck clearance, with minimal benefits on dirt.

But hey, I've been wrong about a lot of things before. I didn't believe @njcustom when he said a fuller tire made for a smoother ride. Then I tried it and haven't turned back.

So yeah guys, try it out and let us know how it goes!

13 November 2016, 00:21 UTC

@No

If you find a treaded tire the same size, make sure it's flat shaped.
Many of the Hoosier treaded tires are rounded which make the ride way more challenging and dangerous.
I couldn't find a flat shaped one.
That said, since the treads will be somehow shallow, there'll probably be little difference in the ride.
That's why I abandoned that project.

13 November 2016, 04:14 UTC

@sonny123

I agree 100%, a rounded tire will make it much harder to ride, and it'll probably actually reduce traction on soft terrain, but I'm hoping the rounded tire will make hard medium-speed carving a possibility. I don't know about anybody else, but when I try to carve at medium to high speed, my feet sort of just peel off the sensor as the OW fights to stay level, maybe a rounded tire would allow for easier rolling left and right, giving the rider more freedom when it comes to medium-to-high speed cornering

13 November 2016, 17:40 UTC

I'm curious to see the result :-) I'd like also to try with a more rounded tire so I could lean in the curve ;-)

14 November 2016, 16:10 UTC

Very interested to hear the results of this experiment for those who are trying it out.... snow season is nearly upon us here in New England, and while that means I can start snowboarding again, I'm gonna miss my OW buddy...

17 November 2016, 02:20 UTC

Just took the snow tire around the block, here's my initial impression:

It's very round, it's a half inch smaller than the Vega tire (the Vega tire is 11.5" in diameter, the snow tire is 11"), but still rubs up against the foot pads and plastic housing when fully inflated, I had to decrease the PSI to prevent the tire from rubbing, but if I can grind down the plastic/wood by half a mm, I should be able to cruise at 20psi no problem.

That round shape makes the OW feel very unstable initially, front to back balancing takes a little bit more effort, but once you get used to it, the OW starts to feel significantly more floaty on concrete. If you thought the OW felt like riding on fresh powder before, it REALLY feels like it now, rolling from front to back is buttery smooth, and I can lean a few degrees further in the carve. Unfortunately, it doesn't improve medium to high speed carving as much as I had hoped, this might be due to the gyroscopic effect of the OW itself, the faster you go, the harder it fights to stay upright. That being said, it is easier to carve at all speeds, but pushing it will still risk coming off of a sensor or two.

It's surprisingly quiet, I like this a lot, the tire makes little to no noise at all.

What you lose in on-road stability...which isn't much, you gain in off-road stability. The flat tire of the OW forces the entire board to rock if one end hits uneven terrain, with a rounded tire, this is far less noticeable. In theory, this may reduce the foot fatigue many of us feel when on a long ride, especially in rough terrain.

The treads do collect more junk, but I didn't notice much more stuff hitting my legs, the only issue will be the junk that stays in the treads when you bring the OW in the house. Also, regarding the treads, it's hard to tell if they're necessary, I did feel more "bite" when accelerating off-road, but that could just as easily be due to the softer tire compound.

Right now the tire is under-inflated slightly, this might be contributing to some of what I've noticed, I'm going to grind out some space when I get the chance, increase the PSI, and post a proper review with pictures. For anybody interested in a rounded tire, treaded or not, do not get 11.5 like the Vega tire, get 10.5 or 11.0

17 November 2016, 03:56 UTC

@No said in Snow Tire!:

Just took the snow tire around the block, here's my initial impression:

It's very round, it's a half inch smaller than the Vega tire (the Vega tire is 11.5" in diameter, the snow tire is 11"), but still rubs up against the foot pads and plastic housing when fully inflated, I had to decrease the PSI to prevent the tire from rubbing, but if I can grind down the plastic/wood by half a mm, I should be able to cruise at 20psi no problem.

That round shape makes the OW feel very unstable initially, front to back balancing takes a little bit more effort, but once you get used to it, the OW starts to feel significantly more floaty on concrete. If you thought the OW felt like riding on fresh powder before, it REALLY feels like it now, rolling from front to back is buttery smooth, and I can lean a few degrees further in the carve. Unfortunately, it doesn't improve medium to high speed carving as much as I had hoped, this might be due to the gyroscopic effect of the OW itself, the faster you go, the harder it fights to stay upright. That being said, it is easier to carve at all speeds, but pushing it will still risk coming off of a sensor or two.

It's surprisingly quiet, I like this a lot, the tire makes little to no noise at all.

What you lose in on-road stability...which isn't much, you gain in off-road stability. The flat tire of the OW forces the entire board to rock if one end hits uneven terrain, with a rounded tire, this is far less noticeable. In theory, this may reduce the foot fatigue many of us feel when on a long ride, especially in rough terrain.

The treads do collect more junk, but I didn't notice much more stuff hitting my legs, the only issue will be the junk that stays in the treads when you bring the OW in the house. Also, regarding the treads, it's hard to tell if they're necessary, I did feel more "bite" when accelerating off-road, but that could just as easily be due to the softer tire compound.

Right now the tire is under-inflated slightly, this might be contributing to some of what I've noticed, I'm going to grind out some space when I get the chance, increase the PSI, and post a proper review with pictures. For anybody interested in a rounded tire, treaded or not, do not get 11.5 like the Vega tire, get 10.5 or 11.0

Cool!!... Thanks for the info, I was also wondering if running the smaller tire would give a little more torque(Still wishing I hadn't upgraded firnware)..