Screw bindings on OW+ ?

25 January 2017, 20:58 UTC

@groovyruvy There's your Halloween costume right there.

25 January 2017, 22:27 UTC

I have a custom homemade binding in mind with proximity sensor to unleash them in case of nosediving, I think it will do the trick.

Do you have a pic or link by any chance? Sounds interesting.

26 January 2017, 01:23 UTC

@dalisdair Challenge accepted!

@wr420 I would make it by myself. I have all I need to build some with Arduino with something like a seat belt closing that would release if my proximity sensor is too close of ground in case of nosedive.

Maybe it's useless to run with bindings, maybe it will open new possibilities, maybe I'll just fly and crash myself on the ground! There is only one way to discover ^^

26 January 2017, 21:19 UTC

I agree with others about the downside of being clipped in. That said, I ride mountain bikes in Utah and we ride clipped in all the time (ironically called "clipless"). Have you looked at the clips that road and mountain bikers use? They are designed to "release" in the case of an accident. Not 100%, but in 10+ years of mountain biking, I have only not had them release once or twice when needed.

Something like this .. http://amzn.to/2jjXWjY

26 January 2017, 23:06 UTC

Just as an example... yesterday at about 18mph+ I hit a big smooth hole is the road.. I totally didn't see or expect it... and when you hit those kind of things at that speed you kind of micro jump off the board when going though it to ride it out... being clipped in just wont give you that kind of freedom..

If you do test riding within any sort of bindings please do wear a helmet, as you could falls in 100's of ways that's just not possible when you're able to jump of the board in 1/10 of a second as required.. I'm pretty sure yesterday with bindings i would have fallen hitting the back of my head hard.

27 January 2017, 04:34 UTC

I was taught to ride by a great guy called Oliver. The word I always heard was eject yourself. If this or that happens, eject yourself.
The onewheel ride is supposed to be loose. You're suppose to be free from the board. It's all about being free.
Snowboards lock you down as you get lots of air, agressive angles, and snow that bites. On the other perspective you're landing on a soft material. (Even packed snow is soft compared to parking lot).
I think your best bet is to understand the board, and understand the free/loose onewheel feeling. It's not about the precise movements, it's about going with the flow.
If your wheel looses traction/nose dives, or anything in between- it's going to transfer that 12-18MPH straight into your body, and smack you on the ground like a whip.
I don't like the sound of that, and i hope you don't either...

27 January 2017, 23:23 UTC

Don't do it

28 January 2017, 03:16 UTC

Before your onewheel arrives- try this...take a 15 pound weight and duct tape it to your back foot, now take a 10 pound weight and duct tape it to your front foot. Finally tape your legs together as if you were locked in to a snowboard. Now jump as high as you can and you decide if the risk is worth the reward. My vote is no, I bought the OW because I love snowboarding but you definitely don't want to be locked in.

28 January 2017, 06:05 UTC

Ignoring the whole issue of what type of damage being strapped in on a nosedive would do to your hands/wrists/head/face, I think bindings would encourage you to ride more aggressively than the OW can handle. The torque and self-balancing ability just aren't at a level where bindings are necessary. You'd be dragging one end or the other in the ground trying to muscle the OW around, waiting for the motor to catch up with whatever you're trying to do.

That being said, I think using some long-board equipment would be a good middle-ground, toe holds, foot stops etc... I put some aluminum foot-stops on mine and it made a noticeable difference in how "attached" I felt to the OW. Also concave foot-pads make a huge difference, at the moment there's really no easy way to do it other than grinding out the concavity with a CNC machine or an angle grinder like I did.

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2 February 2017, 20:49 UTC

Came across this video, looks like they have some sort of foot holding bindings:

https://youtu.be/3tQw4-EIpWI

3 February 2017, 01:43 UTC

@No Ok now i'm jealous of your board. Mine is murdered out but that right there looks Mad Max to me which is something i want to do to mine in time, Dude, add a squirrel skull or teeth to the front of it or a fur mohawk on the fender please. Thant would be so cool.

3 February 2017, 05:45 UTC

@Earthpilot that sounds crazy...but I think you just gave me a good idea, will post pics later...

3 February 2017, 10:40 UTC

@RandomNate said in Screw bindings on OW+ ?:

Came across this video, looks like they have some sort of foot holding bindings:

https://youtu.be/3tQw4-EIpWI

This is great! It really looks like what @sonny123 found concerning bindings. This is exactly the way I want to ride. I think it is only possible on the v1 and not the +. If someone get its OW+ it would be nice to open it to see where the pressure sensors are ;)

You guys don't want to try this kind of bindings also? How do you handle jumps and so when going off-road?

@No Your board is nicely tuned (as I see: tire, custom fender, grip & paint removal).

Stupid question maybe but adding some "snowboard nose" on the OW wouldn't be a better design to prevent nose diving? I mean, if we have a nose that won't dig into the ground but glide along then we would have the time to push back the nose to save our face right?

3 February 2017, 15:22 UTC

@RandomNate I wish they included a shot of them wiping out, just so we could see what happens in that situation.

3 February 2017, 22:37 UTC

@No Haha I freaking love your board. You need to post videos of it destroying the ground beneath it. Have you also thought about hiring someone like this to follow behind you shredding?

8 February 2017, 01:02 UTC

Ok I now have a kickstarter v1 board (🤘), I'm learning to ride it well for now. I'm riding it at 15psi and what I've seen is that when speed kicks in it's quite hard to curve as the tire wants to go in line. Then I think that my feet will get used to counter this "tire pushback" with time but having bindings could help a bit like what we do in snowboard.

Concerning the weight it's not as heavy as I though so jumping with it seems OK, I'm more concerned on the possibility to damage the board after jumping from like... 1.5 meter? Do you guys tried this kind of heavy ground hit after a take off?

8 February 2017, 06:41 UTC

@Jeff said in Screw bindings on OW+ ?:

Ok I now have a kickstarter v1 board (🤘), I'm learning to ride it well for now. I'm riding it at 15psi and what I've seen is that when speed kicks in it's quite hard to curve as the tire wants to go in line. Then I think that my feet will get used to counter this "tire pushback" with time but having bindings could help a bit like what we do in snowboard.

Concerning the weight it's not as heavy as I though so jumping with it seems OK, I'm more concerned on the possibility to damage the board after jumping from like... 1.5 meter? Do you guys tried this kind of heavy ground hit after a take off?

Hoverhooligans just posted a vid on Insta where they dropped about a meter and blew out the tire.

8 February 2017, 11:24 UTC

@No said in Screw bindings on OW+ ?:

Ignoring the whole issue of what type of damage being strapped in on a nosedive would do to your hands/wrists/head/face, I think bindings would encourage you to ride more aggressively than the OW can handle. The torque and self-balancing ability just aren't at a level where bindings are necessary. You'd be dragging one end or the other in the ground trying to muscle the OW around, waiting for the motor to catch up with whatever you're trying to do.

That being said, I think using some long-board equipment would be a good middle-ground, toe holds, foot stops etc... I put some aluminum foot-stops on mine and it made a noticeable difference in how "attached" I felt to the OW. Also concave foot-pads make a huge difference, at the moment there's really no easy way to do it other than grinding out the concavity with a CNC machine or an angle grinder like I did.

I would hate to get clipped by the bolts ends protruding, but getting the sensors to work with footstop implements sounds like a good idea.

I find that going up rough and bumpy slopes/hills is challenging to stay planted on the front. I keep sliding off when I hit a dip and nosedive . Maybe if I don't slide off and maintain power I could plow and/or skid over the sections.

Just been riding for only 2 weeks now and our family is getting the hang of it, and inadvertent foot slides off the sensor seems the culprit to most dives.

8 February 2017, 11:51 UTC

@jeffmccosker I saw that. Gnarly.

8 February 2017, 14:33 UTC

@jeffmccosker Can you link to that tire blowout video? I can't find it.

8 February 2017, 14:56 UTC

@dcosmos I think it was on their Insta story so it prob isn't there anymore. Just sounded like a big crack then the tire was completely off the rim.
I'm thinking a lower psi when you're dropping stuff isn't a bad idea.

8 February 2017, 19:56 UTC

I find that going up rough and bumpy slopes/hills is challenging to stay planted on the front. I keep sliding off when I hit a dip and nosedive . Maybe if I don't slide off and maintain power I could plow and/or skid over the sections.

I still struggle with that slipping issue, but not so much since adding the footstops, it's just the nature of the OW and I haven't found any real solution to the issue, other than dropping PSI down. Lower PSI = a more forgiving ride in my experience