The mystery for jumping up curbs without bindings has been solved. Are you ready to fly?
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@desperado We are doing fender and convertable version. I'm explain more later. Wipeouts are no more of a problem with Flight Fins... You never get caught. The Fins aren't even half way over your foot. Thats the beauty of it. Also, your feet tend to go to the outside of the baord when you take a dive so its much safer than having them on the outside as a more binding type locking in. Hope that helps!
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Also, you are only in the fins when you want to jump over something. The rest of the time they are out of the way and you can move your feet anyway you'd like.
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Ddesperado @MichaelW 13 November 2017, 01:48 UTC
@michaelw Makes sense, that's what I was thinking. My idea of it was something that only really holds if you kind of grip it by pinching your feet toward each other, so if you need to bail you just jump off no problem. My day job is product design 3D modeling / analysis, would be happy to offer any help you might need in exchange for early access to product. Take my money!!!
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Ddesperado @MichaelW 13 November 2017, 01:49 UTC
@michaelw I was inspired by the Lieftech board. It has bindings that you can easily step out of and I thought it should be possible to do something similar or even better with OW.
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@desperado I may contact you at some point. Thanks for the props and support.
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Final testing with the Fins over Thanksgiving! Just booked the airline flights... Very excited!!
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@flyingpapaya Dude! You and me both!! We are producing this product for people like you so thanks for the encouragement... Hope to get them to you soon :-)
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Ttony420121 16 November 2017, 16:35 UTC
Couple things I notice in the video it looks like you have to keep your feed near or in the "fin grooves" near the center of the board but people like me like to go with a wider stance, would I be able to change stances at speed using this or would you have to get use to a narrow stance? Also will this will be backward compatible with the v1.
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@tony420121 You have to ride closer in the jump itself but some riders even find themselves switching to a wider stance for landing. It will all make sense when you use them. There is a very short learning curve for people that already ride a OneWHeel well... For more experienced riders its a matter of about 10 mins riding with them. As far as the V1 goes its possible to ride with Fins but better with the Plus as its good to have a bigger sensor. When they sell Plus pads for the V1 it won't make a difference.... I'm pretty sure that time is coming soon...
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Hhenrythedj 22 November 2017, 15:12 UTC
I can't find a spot on the website to get on the mailing list - hope to get on it though--- it only shows me the video super small
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@henrythedj There should be a pop up in the middle of the screen when you first go to the site. You type in your email and name. Let me know if you're still having issues.
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Up and over a full size tree!! No ramp no bonk.
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Another pic of the flight Fins in action!
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@michaelw Hi buddy! Please deal with @RideOnExperience to be sure that we can fly quickly here in France :) "Ride On" is THE French Shop for ow accessory, good guys 100% serious & ow passionate ;)
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First review by a Pro rider.
TO THOSE INTERESTED IN FLIGHT FINS:
"I recently visited with Flight Fins creators Michael and Orie in Los Angeles to experience their product and I could not be more impressed! Flight Fins have a durable and road-ready design that make everyday rides a new adventure and take extreme riding like mine to a whole new level. They also make going up curbs and over parking blocks with your OneWheel a breeze - not to mention Flight Fins improve basic turning and reverts because they give you the ability to crank the board and have much more control without needing to do any of the fancy footwork required without them. This has sparked my passion to come up with new tricks that were never before possible - and I’m sure it’ll do the same for you.
Flight Fins give you the sense of security that being strapped into a snowboard would with the added benefit of allowing you to open up your stance for carving and cruising when they’re not in use. This design also makes falling out a breeze when you need to bail or hop off your board.
Thanks to Michael and Orie for creating such a revolutionary product and giving me the opportunity to be one of the first to test this game-changing product!" -Bodhi Harrison -
@MichaelW Hi guys, your product look so sicckckkkkk ! Well done, we wait with patiente :)))
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@rideonexperience Thanks bud. Announcement on the Facebook group "Flight Fins" Thursday Dec 7th Pacific time at Noon. Thanks for the stoke!!
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Hello, everyone -
The moment has finally arrived - the campaign for Flight Fins has officially begun! We appreciate your passion and patience and are excited to get these Fins in your hands as soon as possible. Please click the link below to take the next step:
Ride on!
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@michaelw and now I know who you were now on the forums ;) good luck!! I'm ready to fly, except I have a bunch of crap already attached to my fender....
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Nice work! This will be a sweet journey to watch. Cool product idea.... -
AAT_onewheeler 9 December 2017, 17:28 UTC
i really like to buy a pair of the FlightFins at indigogo but referring to the FAQ's: Q: Can I buy the Flight Fins through this crowdsourcing campaign if I live outside of the United States?
A: Yes, IF you provide a shipping address within the United States. So, if you have a buddy who is willing to receive your shipment in the U.S. from us and then independently send it to you outside of the U.S. you're all set. Any addresses outside of the U.S. cannot be shipped directly by us at this time. However, once we go into production and retail we hope to expand and provide global shipments.so is here at the forum somebody who would help me and send a pair over to me to Austria? I would fundraise it under your adress.
or is @RideOnExperience already involved in the FF for the european riders?
edit: @RideOnExperience helps me out. thanks a lot! will e-mail you guys
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Hi @at_onewheeler,
We are in contact with Michael and Orie, the Fligh Fins Brothers, to make it happen in Europe asap.
We will be communicate to European Riders so STAY TUNED.
However, i invite you to us on email @ rideonexperience@gmail.com to give name and address. We will keep in touch personally!Ride On
Float On
& Fly on!Arnaud
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We are fully funded! Thanks to everyone who helped to make this dream a reality :-)
We will all be flying soon!!
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First Prototype (Convertable) Flight Fin Fender is being tested. This thing is super cool!!
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Ddesperado @MichaelW 12 December 2017, 18:17 UTC
@michaelw
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@desperado Looking forward to getting these things to you guys to see what you can do. Just think of the videos that will come out after that. Lots of new tricks to be learned :-)
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Jjamesgunter68 26 January 2018, 22:47 UTC
Any chance to get an install video?
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Yes. We will have one.
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Jjoshb89 30 January 2018, 05:18 UTC
Will people be notified when they ship with tracking info? Don't want sheisty package thieves gettin my foot lockers! :-)
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Mmrclowny 5 February 2018, 19:10 UTC
I'm getting mine in the mail today!
After watching the install video by FloatLife, I don't like the way it installs tho. I wonder what the maximum weight the 4 fender screws can hold.
The zip ties seems like an after thought due to the above concern. I wish more permanent solution can be found where a bracket is made to better hold the fender to the board using the frames versus the screws.
I replaced my Rambo fender with the CranftandRide to fit the flight fins and not sure how I feel about drilling holes in them. Especially for the zip ties... They are just so brand new and pretty at the moment. haha
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@mrclowny - I am having some of the same reservations. Another solution might be if the Fins had some sort of bracket that attached them to the same screws that hold the fender to the frame (making the Fins independent of the fender entirely), it A. might be less likely to damage the fender, and B. would not even require the use of a fender at all.
The other thing is, such a bracket could maybe make the Fins somewhat adjustable - once I attach these Fins to the fender, I better never change my shoe style to ones with thicker or thinner soles/insoles, or the fit may be off. I could drill more holes to reattach/adjust them, but at some point you start to worry about making the FM fender more breakable than people say it already is.
I dunno. I backed these and will probably attach them when I get them, but I'm having a little bit of buyer's remorse now. Those zip ties make it seem like an idea that's ALMOST ready for prime-time, but not quite.
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Mmrclowny 5 February 2018, 20:52 UTC
@Glyph Hmm so I'm not the only one. I think I'll wait until there are more feedback after real usage in the wild.
I'm sure I'm wrong but I keep thinking one of the screw will break and I'm sure it will happen at the most appropriate time like when I'm jumping over a bus or something. LOL
Plus, Onewheel is just fine the way it is for my riding....
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OOnewheel Miami 5 February 2018, 21:25 UTC
Yeah,
I think a lot of us are feeling a bait and switch here.
No one told me I needed to zip-tie this crap to my Onewheel. Glad I have two boards or I'd NEVER consider this, and I'm still pretty on the fence here.
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Mmrclowny 5 February 2018, 21:31 UTC
Didn't mean to start any negative discussion about this without having any personal experience with it. So let's just all agree to hold off on any negative comments until we get real feedback from others. Then we'll know for sure. =)
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OOnewheel Miami @mrclowny 5 February 2018, 21:41 UTC
@mrclowny - Why not? This is rigged at best, I don't think any of us expected the zip tie situation.
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@mrclowny Agreed, I don't mean to be negative - the overall idea remains super-cool, which is why so many of us got excited about it. I just wonder if there's maybe a more elegant solution? Like maybe Flight Fins just needs to produce their own rock-solid fender, with the Fin system integrated to it, and you buy the whole thing. Or, like I said, maybe some kind of bracket that the Fin attaches directly to rather than to the fender (but the bracket could attach underneath the fender to the same frame screws.). The bracket would have to be strong though, aluminum or steel or something.
I got mine in the mail today, not sure when I will get a chance to attach.
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OOnewheel Miami 7 February 2018, 01:25 UTC
Really, they need to make a fender that bolts AROUND the frame, and is crazy sturdy.
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Ggrievor 9 February 2018, 05:47 UTC
ordering these the moment my XR ships! Hope it is an easy install.
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@jamesgunter68 @grievor
Jeff Mccosker made a tutorial on how to install FF ;)
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@michaelw said in The mystery for jumping up curbs without bindings has been solved. Are you ready to fly?:
It came back that in one area our design was 1/24,000 of an inch too thick..... You gotta be kidding me?! 1/24,000 needed to be shaved off to have it pop from the mold smoothly... So that was another week to go back to the design guy (these guys are busy) then back to them again.
This is the typical process with a new product. I'm guessing they said 24 thousandths of an inch meaning .024" which would make more sense than .000042". Normal calipers are good for 3 decimal place reads and micrometers are good for 4, after that you need some seriously finely tuned digital equipment to get readings in the 5th and 6th decimal place.
I always convert that to sheets of paper for people not experienced with manufaucturing tolerancing; so that would be ~8 sheets of standard paper thickness. US manufacturing world would say "24 thousands" or "24 mils", which both mean .024".
I'm glad you were able to get the best part possible from the start rather than finding this issue after you made some number of them. That delay will end up being worth it in the long run. Congrats to you and your brother!
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OOnewheel Miami 9 February 2018, 14:09 UTC
Have them installed now.
Spooky. I love it.
Install could have been better, but it could have been worse, and I still hate the zip-ties...
Still.. Damn cool add-on.
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Llightning 18 February 2018, 01:17 UTC
I'm confused, I'm trying to position them on the fender and no position is possible without the edge severely digging into my legs unless I were to leave 1/3 of my foot hanging off the back of the board. And completely agree on the bait and switch with zero disclosure of the zip tie rig in order to prevent serious injury or death. Here's a picture https://imgur.com/a/GVcDa. I'm standing straight and it jabs me, if I were to even slightly bend my knees the edge would injure my leg!
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@lightning you've got a lot more room to mount it more forward, towards the front of your foot. The edge of the fins can hang over the bend of the fender, it's just the bolts have to be mounted on the flat part. You can also play with the angle of the fins, angling up the angle side. They don't have to be perpendicular with the board.
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@lightning You need to mount them slightly sideways. Tilt them off the top of your foot till they feel comfortable. Also, move them more off the fender towards the fender line. I would go over that fender line maybe a quarter inch. Hope that helps
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@glyph As I'm sure you probably know by now we have designed a Flight fender. This process takes time and we will need time for testing and refining. These other suggestions we looked at and found that they were either too expensive or not not doable for one reason or another.
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Llightning @MichaelW 18 February 2018, 20:56 UTC
I will give that a try. I must admit I spent close to 8 hours and three attempts Drilling and remounting them. I don't know if my Fender is going to allow for any more Drilling. If you think you're going to get away with a quick one or two hour install think again. If you install these properly in less than 3 hours go get yourself a lottery ticket.
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@michaelw
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Preorder today!! 1:00 Pacfic time Preorder. Go to FlightFins.com
Thanks for all your support guys!! We love this sport!!
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@michaelw Preordered! Glad you guys took the zip-tie thing into consideration, that was probably a last minute pivot from you all but it def. looks a lot cleaner.
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VVitaly @MichaelW 27 March 2018, 22:47 UTC
@michaelw Actually even without Flight-Fins it is good fender. Naked, but protects from splashes. Is it?
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@vitaly Its about 60-70% For debris and water. But if you care that much you need to go with a full fender. I went through puddles at the beach the other day and nothing... Way better than no fender!
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VVitaly @MichaelW 28 March 2018, 00:29 UTC
@michaelw I'm sold. Ordering two :)
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Mmrclowny 28 March 2018, 00:48 UTC
@MichaelW
I didn't want to miss out so I ordered one while golfing on my phone! But when I got home, I noticed a $4.97 Ohio State tax? The number didn't add up but I was on the green trying to line my birdie putt so I just ordered it.
Is this a new thing? i live in Los Angeles?
BTW, I appreciate the transparency by showing the install details this time. :thumbup!
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@mrclowny Yeah, company is based in Ohio with my brother. I guess thats the tax you need to pay... Anyway thanks for the props! We can't wait to get these into the hands of the community!!
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SsfCTAC 28 March 2018, 01:22 UTC
out of state orders usually don't pay taxes unless the shop has presence in the same state as the buyer.
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@sfctac Hmmmm I need to look into that. Thanks for the heads up!
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Mmrclowny @sfCTAC 28 March 2018, 01:41 UTC
@sfctac @MichaelW Ohio seems to be an origin based tax from what I read on google. So I suppose it's what it is. Learned something new today.
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Just ordered the flight fender and fin combo last night. Yeah boy.
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RRodSlide 3 April 2018, 13:24 UTC
ordered both too ! Can't wait to jump over and over...
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Thanks for the orders guys! A new surprise coming soon!!
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@michaelw another surprise??????
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@goodblake-eskate Yes sir! They just keep coming :-)
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@michaelw: good to read, I think you guys are making awesome stuff which really develops the sport.
it´s the rare combination of really useful stuff, designed and produced in a professional way and this even includes professional communication, and a cool look & feel.it´s been a while since an add-on product from the community raised my attention but this time I have to say I am exited to get a pair of these!
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@cr4p Thanks for the props man! We love this stuff so it doesn't feel like work so much :-)
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FlightFender is shipping in June! FlightShield reveal coming soon :-) FlightFins.com
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