unexpected wipe out

25 April 2016, 02:42 UTC

While trying out a different pair of shoes than I usually ride in, I seem to have broken contact with the foot sensor while going reasonably fast and I got launched. Luckily I guided myself into some bushes to the amusement of all in sight. Now I am paranoid while going fast (which is the way I prefer to ride). I think that I may have adjusted my foot without realizing it. I now constantly think that I will break contact while carving hard or while going over bumps. Has anyone else had this problem and is there some advice for keeping good contact?

25 April 2016, 02:47 UTC

@donny-h Any skate shoes are fine, like Vans or Converse. And once you're moving faster than .5 mph (that's POINT 5, not 5) you only have to keep in contact with ONE of the sensors. That is to allow for a bit of movement of your feet while riding.

And to be sure, there are two sensors, both on the same side of the deck signified with a blue stripe on the grip tape). One sensor is at the toe, the other is at the heel.

Most people recommend you put your front foot on this pad. Makes mounting and dismounting easier, and it's also easier to keep an eye on your foot placement while riding if it's in front.

28 April 2016, 16:41 UTC

the greck, is this still good info re the location of the foot pad sensors, someone posted a pic the other day showing the sensors in a narrow band down the middle of the pad, rather than side by side?

28 April 2016, 16:53 UTC

@SeaP90d Yes, my info is still good. The sensors are at the toe and heel of the foot, as I said, and as shown by the blue squares on the grip tape.

The sensors just aren't quite as large as the blue squares, they are more towards the center, which is all the chalk markings showed in the photo you're referring to.

So just try to keep your heel and toe of your front foot centered on the blue indicators and you'll be fine.

28 April 2016, 17:00 UTC

@donny-h

Had the same experience when I tried different shoes.
Luckily I was going slow.

Took a while to build courage and regain confidence to go a bit faster.

Now I always wear flat sneakers and getting little more comfortable carving and speeding it up a little.

2 May 2016, 17:19 UTC

ofonny123 I am having the same experience, it has taken quite a few days of riding to get my confidence back. On the bright side, I've learned to ride properly because of it! My posture is totally different now. I shift my hips forward now whilst leaning my upper body back a bit and knees bent more than before.

2 May 2016, 18:06 UTC

Brings me to the thought of a suggestion that we should submit to onewheel. - Seems as though they should be able to create a shaping that instead of completely stopping the onewheel when breaking contact, it instead pulls back or what ever un-till it reaches a complete stop. - I fear this will happen to me as-well at some point. : /

2 May 2016, 20:48 UTC

It seems a good idea to me.

2 May 2016, 21:24 UTC

This is tricky, contact broken so it thinks you're gone and slams on the breaks to keep from becoming a riderless onewheel projectile. The answer really is contact switches on both front and back foot pads. Problem pretty much solved, but at increased cost on an already expensive thing. I've been thinking a lot about how to hack something like this together just buying another front pad and putting it on the back and wiring the two pads together so as long as one is pressed the onewheel keeps driving.

2 May 2016, 21:26 UTC

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3 May 2016, 13:38 UTC

I keep reading that there is no pushback in extreme, but I get pushback in extreme...

3 May 2016, 13:48 UTC

@WyvernKing Where do you keep reading that? EVERY mode has pushback, and anyone who says otherwise is mistaken. Pushback is the only way to tell you that you're nearing the max speed that the motor can handle (read: the only thing keeping you from faceplanting). In Classic, it kicks in at about 5mph, and in Extreme it's at around 15mph.

3 May 2016, 13:59 UTC

@wheeler If you look through your comment history, all you ever do is bitch and moan about the Onewheel, talk about how many times you've wrecked, and basically give people inaccurate information. I'm starting to wonder if you're not just trolling.

Instead of allowing experienced riders, like myself, who have been riding for months, who ride every day, who have NEVER wrecked, and who DON'T have an issue with nosediving, and who ALWAYS ride in Extreme, to educate you so this doesn't continue to happen, you'd rather ride improperly and just blame everything on the board and attempt to give Onewheel a bad name.

Any experienced rider will tell you that Extreme is the way to go. I wish they had never chosen that word, because it tends to scare people, even though all it does is give you more control over your own speed. If you can't be cautious and control your speed without the board doing it for you, you should probably sell it and take up something like kite flying or bird watching.

3 May 2016, 16:08 UTC

@thegreck on point once again! Extreme is really the basic mode, while Classic is more for the guys that need to wear full body armor. Even @donny-h who started this post says that he's learned how to ride properly as a result of his incident (keep it up @donny-h ).

My 7 year old daughter won't even ride it in Classic mode, it's extreme or nothing (also can't get her to keep the helmet on...). No joke!

3 May 2016, 16:10 UTC

You'll also notice her proper weight distribution (all 45 lbs.) and knee bend...

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3 May 2016, 19:12 UTC

@thegreck
How am i giving anyone inaccurate info? Honestly, I would just prefer that someone else not get injured. I don't even notice pushback in extreme. I will still ride but with' extreme'caution....

3 May 2016, 20:32 UTC

@wheeler you should meet up with someone else in your area and see how their board behaves compared to yours. I've got two onewheels and they both push back in the non-extreme "extreme mode" but they don't do it quite the same, maybe your board is out there at the end of the bell curve if as it seems there are some differences, and if in fact it really doesn't push back at all you might want to get it fixed or trade it in for a new one...

3 May 2016, 22:59 UTC

Respect the board. This isn't a balls out ride. With time maybe.

4 May 2016, 00:28 UTC

@SeaP90d
Thanks, yeah i'm going to get it checked out. Theres no way I would sell it no matter if I fall down. I gotta respect the speed. I also want to appologize to greck and the community. It wasnt my intent to crap on a well built and unique product. When I was 7, I had a kick and go scooter. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I feel the same way about the One wheel. Its the coolest thing since sliced bread. It will go anywhere. Living on the east coast with roads full of sand makes it a worthwhile purchase.

4 May 2016, 03:44 UTC

I don't think you have to apologise I don't think you missed the respect to anybody provided you think as me with, with all my respects and of course I maybe wrong that thegreeck is from the staff of FM and you don't want to upset them too much just in case you need they fix your machine out. This is a free forum to explain all our experiences not only to make FM content. I wish the problem is we don't wear appropriate shoes for example than a non push back advise or pressure foot pad failure. In any case I did ride for abt one month without problems before the nose dive happened surely my big crash happened for the excess of confidence (remember I suffer an AC2 luxation). It is better the users knows as much things as possible before riding and everybody rides safer and only have to worry abt having fun on the OW, at the end of the day this is of the interest of FM as well. Said that... I did wear Italian Hogan brand long and narrow shape shoes when I had the crash two Sundays ago instead of the broad salomon shoes I used to wear before I want to believe this is the problem. When I get quite recovered in some weeks I will always wear skate shoes and ride little bit slower wish no problem happens again among other things because I will be 50 this year I can't permit myself having such a blows very often. In any case I prefer to explain and help with my experience other people and FM as well than keep myself in silence, as better the OW works and the riders ride, as more fun we all going to have. Safe ride!

4 May 2016, 12:37 UTC

@to-moto said in unexpected wipe out:

I maybe wrong that thegreeck is from the staff of FM

You're wrong ! But @thegreck always give good advice with a lot of positivism so I understand why he's upset about negatives feedback...This product is a blast and it works like a charm! I learned to use it alone and have no issue with anything: shoes, pushback, riding mode, how to use the batterie&the board,nosedive....nobody to give me advice....It just requieres a little bit of thinking...of course it's not a "zero defect" board but with a lot of practise and experience it's the perfect toy we've all been waiting for!!
Best regard from France!

4 May 2016, 14:10 UTC

I'd like to think if I worked for Future Motion, they would've featured at least ONE of the 12 Onewheel videos I've made over the past 4+ months on their YouTube channel.

4 May 2016, 18:03 UTC

@thegreck said in unexpected wipe out:

I'd like to think if I worked for Future Motion, they would've featured at least ONE of the 12 Onewheel videos I've made over the past 4+ months on their YouTube channel.

Hey@thegreck can I get a free board? Jk

5 May 2016, 07:37 UTC

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5 May 2016, 08:28 UTC

Hi thegreck. If you aren't part of the equip I think you deserve a couple of machines for free. I went to the specialist yesterday my luxation AC is not grade 2 but 3 or higher I will be operated thursday next week. If the problem are the shoes I think FM have to study a new pressure foot pad little bit more generous. Can you imagine yourself how you feel after being riding like in heaven for half an hour and suddenly without the smallest advise just at 100m from home, having done nothing different, suddenly the machine lets you down and you finish crashing your shoulder in the tarmac, plus head, hands, knees and elbow. It is very nice too. I wish it to nobody. FM will do whatever they like. Although I have no doubt they studying this matters very carefully and will improve such a great invention as fast as they can. But I have my conscience in peace. I explain what happened to me in order to prevent FM and riders abt it. If I would have done something so strange and aggressive I could understand but I didn't. I was riding fast but quietly. I ride at the mountains with the motorbike and at the road as well. Am skiing since 40 years ago. We have at least 4 skateboards at the garage (my first skateboard my father did bring it to me from New York when I was abt 9 years old), four BTT and one freestyle. We wake-board in summer at the sea. When something fails I know exactly what it happened. A stone on the road, too much gas, incorrect position on the board.... with the one week is different. Suddenly doing nothing different OW act different. Or this is how you feel. You will say to me now that this is very strange if OW suddenly act different it means the order one did give to it had to be different as well and you will probably be right but if the rider is unable to understand what happened and what he did wrong for example, he's going to lose confidence and this no good. Pressure foot pad for example. I think there are 2000 ways to do it more generous. Not only responding to skate shoes (I read one had problems with vans as well) but to smallest pressure from any kind of shoe and the pressure blue area on the foot pad that activates the OW could be bigger as well. I don't know but surely they will find hundreds of solutions for such a simple thing. Abt the push back advise this time didn't happen. So I want to believe the problem was at the pressure food pad am not going to say if because me or because the pressure foot pad it self. I any case we have heard abt too many inexplicable nose dives at least inexplicable for the rider and this is not acceptable this has to be deeply revised in order in the future when a nose dive happens rider may say am an idiot and not like now that don't know what it happened and lose confidence in the machine. And as am sure my OW is not different than the others, while no changes on the construction will be applied sooner than later everybody that has read this will say to himself, damn! Maybe that one wasn't so wrong something inexplicable happened here to me as well.
To finish just to say that despite the crash and the operation and the fact it is my second week at home the other day I did look in Internet for a pair of Nike skateboard shoes, call me masochist if you want, but feel like I need to ride onewheel again. It is so fantastic when it works.... I congratulate the creators for such a great invention. It is awesome and I highly recommended it but as every thing in life it needs constant improvement. Am sure the banal answers we receive from FM respond only to the fear they may have abt the possibility someone decides to litigate. Maybe they can't do it different. Maybe at their place I would do the same. I hope anyway from the silence they hear what we say and they study the way they can make the machine more and more safe by itself but also preventing rider's small mistakes. Safe ride! God save OneWheel!! But also my neck, of course!!! Lol

5 May 2016, 11:52 UTC

@to-moto You've got a nosedive trauma dude and I understand why you're so afraid about that.
You seems to be an experienced rider so you're right to be optimist and ride again your OW.
Personnaly I nosedived a lot during the first weeks (without big injuries so i should be lucky).sometimes I Know if it was my mistake sometimes not(fucking machine)...But I promise you after a few month riding, the nosediving completly gone(always keep in my mind it could happen again...).
I suggest you to wear shoes with fine soles and ride very slowly the first weeks...
And for sure FM will work on this defect wich is not really safe (you can email them and tell your story).
Hope you'll get well soon.
Keep us in the loop!

6 May 2016, 17:11 UTC

Thanks mate. Falls happens in life since we are born. We basically learn falling. :-)
The problem is when you start to be little bit old you still learn from falls but also get more and more limited so one has to be realistic and start putting limits to himself in certain things. I will follow your advise and onewheel slow for a while also wear appropriate shoes and follow the advises of better riders than I, like for example the trick of always keeping the head in line with the wheel, when I want onewheelling faster again it is as simple as wearing my hot body armour vest. It isn't as comfortable as riding with a t-shirt and short pants but for having some safe fun a little while at my age it is the most intelligent. Good weekend to The Onewheelers. Safe ride!

6 May 2016, 17:34 UTC

I'm too old to be wiping out myself, but I can't resist riding the OW at it's limit. I'll have to try out some Vans. Yesterday I reagitated a wrist injury from a fall two weeks ago when the OW dumped me going straight at 10 mph and once again couldn't run it out. Hopefully its the running shoes but still questionable that it suddenly stopped without low battery pushback. My OW went on for 1/2 mile afterwards before the typical low batt pushback. I've also experienced a long period of travels while app says 1% battery. Strange.

7 May 2016, 08:16 UTC

Hi mate. Sorry abt your fall. First I recommend you always charge your battery after a ride so when you ride again later it is full.
As far as the shoes it is not easy to give a good advise. I read at the forum a rider had a nose dive wearing Vans so I don't recommend you it. I ordered a pair of Nike Stefan Janosky. Actually they look very similar than the vans... I don't know. I will try those. Once am recovered and riding I tell you what abt the Janosky. It is a pity riders have to be so worried abt the shoes they wear. This means CHANGES ON THE PRESSURE FOOT PAD ARE COMPULSORY supposing the problem is not coming from another area of the OW but something has to be done. Nose dives without push back advise should never happen when riding without doing stupid things. There is a rider that had a great idea in my opinion. He said it could be cool if push back happened till total stop if for any reason rider moves the foot out of the blue area of the pressure foot pad while riding instead the actual disconnection of the OW and consequent smack. Wish FM have seen this and think abt it. In the meantime put your 5 senses while riding and at least few protections may reduce the injuries if every you finish falling despite of everything. Tarmac no forgive! Take care. Safe ride!