Soft suspension

[J-Glide]

If there was a way to mount the wheel to the board using springs and some suspension linkage that was really soft, it would feel as though you were really floating on air. That truly would feel like a hover board. Just a thought.

[Polle]

Think the feel on acceleration and carving would change also?

[veryous]

Hmmm....that be interesting so the tire or you wasn't soaking everything up. I'd also like this to be controlled and adjustable like in my car when it goes into sport settings if I'm reaching for the stars here.

[J-Glide]

It would just be a fluffy soft air ride feel. I like the idea of being able to switch back-and-forth to.

[J-Glide]

@Polle yes, this would probably change acceleration and cornering. I was thinking more of a cruising thing. I'm not talking about anything bulky here, just something to give an air ride feel. really soft and almost bouncy.

[Franky]

I think it could work. I'm guessing there are a lot of plays off this form factor that can and will be introduced down the road.

[dicorci]

i actually think hard suspension would ride better; it rides great right now with no suspension so just a little bit of cushion would help a lot

but i think a better idea would be to use a softer tire, it would wear out a little faster but i'm sure the ride quality would be worth the trade off

i actually posted about using a different tire months ago
http://community.rideonewheel.com/topic/44/is-it-possible-to-mount-the-softer-yellow-vega-tire/3

[veryous]

I recall that. I'd give up some range for some extra float. I mean I already do lowering my pressure way down.

[Bart]

@veryous what kind of range are you getting with low pressure? I am getting terrible range I think so not sure if it is a battery issue or just that I still need to learn how to go faster... I am still in Classic mode, and at 10 PSI am getting 4-5KM only (about 3 miles) and at 20 PSI I am getting 6-7KM (about 4 miles), so not very happy about that... what range are you guys getting?

edit - oh and I weigh 100kg / 220lbs so that doesn't help, but still seems the range is well below what I was expecting...

[veryous]

@Bart Get out of classic mode WHEN READY, first off. That seems to take a ton of range out. @franky weighs around what you do, but there's so many factors here just like when driving a car. Are you carving a lot, how much are you accelerating and slowing down, are you hitting push back a lot, what kind of terrain, is there hills, etc.? Yesterday for example I was 80% off road, multiple hill climbs of couple hundred feet, having to get on and off in places and I went 4.5 miles and still had 30% left when I got back to the car. I only weigh 170 though.

@franky what are you getting for range?

[Franky]

Yeah there are a lot of variables but typically I'm getting 5.5 miles on 16psi and an extra mile when over 20psi when riding extreme mode. It will be interesting so see how age affects battery life. I've had mine for only 2 months.

[Franky]

Tonight I did almost 6 miles on 16psi at 225 weight until low battery pushback kicked in. I had made it back to my house at 5.7 miles but i decided to ride back and forth to see how far it would go on that last percent.

[Bart]

Thanks for the info @Franky - I mainly ride on grass and I am not very fast (only had the board for a week and never did a board sport before... slow learner!)

When does the low battery pushback kick in for you? I have never felt the board give me battery pushback even when riding it down to 1%...
I have had it just stop on me and throw me off, and then the board was off completely, when turning it back on the battery level was around 10% so not sure what happened...

[Sirgu]

Let`s throw this in here...

Someone`s DIY project on swing-arm type of suspension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86CNIPNBgDM&ab_channel=TechForum
The video is YT unlisted. Stumbled onto it HERE and thought maybe folks over here would find interested as well.

[b0ardski]

no matter how well it works, you're adding a lot of weight, complexity (more parts to break), and expense, I don't want a $3000 45# board

[Sirgu]

(Yea I just realized this old topic is in category of "Product Wishlist". So maybe should have done a new one.)

It`s just interesting to follow.
For instance - how KiiL Guards achieved from HERE to THERE with their idea of suspension.
And now someone with swing-arm design idea ...

Sometimes I just love the innovation. Not necessarily eager of getting any of those myself. As many of questionabilities remain.

[Swinefeaster]

@Sirgu said in Soft suspension:

swing-arm

i ordered the killguards, should get them soon.
do you have a link to the swing arm idea? i'm curious

[Sirgu]

It`s in few posts back.
For YouTube link CLICK HERE
and for corresponding reddit link CLICK HERE

@Swinefeaster said in Soft suspension:

i ordered the killguards, should get them soon.

Let us know how does it perform!

[Swinefeaster]

i've had them now for a couple weeks and holy crap they are awesome!

pros:

• i can ride roots on trails which i've never been able to ride
• can now jump over fair sizes logs with the flight fins since the landings are so much more forgiving
• the crossbar or towers are much shorter than i imagined
• haven't had any issues hitting my ankles or legs during bails
• durability has been great
• nosedives are much more forgiving now --- the suspension gives you some extra time to compensate and ride it out, which is totally unexpected and really great

cons:

• installation was a lot harder than i thought, had to find a way to compress the springs to get them in, but i brute forced it in and it was good
• lost a bit of range, maybe 5% though hard to tell cause i had to replace the tire too at the same time since the old one wore out
• 180 reverts are a bit trickier now, still getting used to the softness so i need to recalibrate my skills
• i will definitely have to upgrade the battery now i'm maxing out my range more often that it's getting annoying, jw has a chip now that allows me to install an after market mod battery so might go that route soon
• the hud handle is not compatible
• had to trim my rail guards to make them work with the towers.

[Swinefeaster]

@Sirgu oh and thanks for the links. interesting other designs. the XR-S has a weird metal crossbar under the onewheel which is a nonstarter for me... would hit stuff with it for sure, and prevent curb nudges.